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Hi. Can you please explain why you blocked an IP for two weeks with no warning? PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:52, 29 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

It created "Little Einsteins" with the content "Maƿmaþisne Little Einsteins maþǣre in ma mlada maki Disney Junior nasapþisse unda masēo maþa. Manki Little Einsteins Huhnad kaþisneæna moþǣre naþȳsakita". I am not sure of the normal practice re warning on other Wikipedias; but mostly in the past when blocking makers of vandalism, I have done so without warning.   Ƿes hāl!    20:50, 29 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I saw your message. It is fine. This block was not really bad, but I did wonder why you blocked for 2 weeks. In the future, please only block IPs for durations up to 2 days if the user wasn't given a warning. If the vandal continues, you may extend the block. Of course, more disruptive vandals may get longer blocks. PiRSquared17 (talk) 22:10, 30 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
P.S. Thank you very much for your work as an admin here.
Okay, thank you.   Ƿes hāl!    22:19, 30 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
You in troubleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec) 03:44, 2 Wēodmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Not really, luckily ;) PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:24, 7 Wēodmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)


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I thought the "c" spelling better; I avoid "k" wherever possible as it is so rare, and in the case of Usbecastan there is no doubt that it is a hard-c, not a "ch".

For the people, who would then be Usbece, you may question it, but then "C" is not always soft before "e": Cent is hard, and the Argi (Argives) have a g as hard as nails (like the people). Hogweard (talk) 22:38, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Please review and give comments. PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:56, 1 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)


[adiht fruman]

Clear the deletion category again? Flocc:Candidates for speedy deletion. PiRSquared17 (talk) 12:00, 18 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Temp adminship expires

[adiht fruman]

Your temporary adminship will expire next month. I'd like to nominate you for adminship in a few weeks (or you could self-nominate). Maybe, if enough people support, you could become a permanent sysop. I'm also thinking of nominating Hogweard and Wodenhelm, both of whom have previous experience with the tools, and maybe Espreon. What do you think? PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:15, 26 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I'll re-nominate myself. I am fine with the others you mentioned also, and would back them.   Ƿes hāl!    09:41, 29 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Oppose. Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec) 00:07, 30 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)


[adiht fruman]

Hi Gottistgut! I don't know whether you know about this language or not, but Old Saxon was one of the closest languages to Old English that ever was spoken. But unfortunately, this language is mostly unknown and none seems to take attention to it, especially people on Incubator... For the last two years I've been struggling so that Incubator may create an Old Saxon wikipedia (https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/osx/H%C5%8D%C6%80ids%C4%ABda), a wiki that will certainly never be created... and thus I wanted to know whether it was possible to make an Old Saxon Portal on this Old English wikipedia, a portal that would host every article that has to do with the language and culture of the continental Saxons? I thought it would be wonderful if the portail could be bilingual, writen in Old English and in Old Saxon below, and maybe with a Portal article writen in Old Saxon (don't worry this won't be a real article, only a template with few Old Saxon texts that will be changed every month maybe). There will be no fear that this "Portal article" may appear among Old English articles, this will only be a template. I just wanted to submit this idea, because it is very frustrating to see that a wonderful language like Old Saxon - which by the way could have a very steady writing style - is denied the right to have its own wikipedia as Old English or Latin have. PS: Don't judge Old Saxon by what you see on Incubator, I made this page some times ago and the writing is not steady at all, compared to what it could be. I simply stopped writing on it since I know it deserves to nothing... --Stardsen (talk) 23:55, 1 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Hello, yes, I know of it. I have read a little bit of Heliand. While I sympathize with what you're envisioning, I don't think it is an utterly good idea. The reasons being:
  • Old Saxon is less well documented than, say, Old English or Old Norse - meaning more neologisms and more borrowings necessary (the extent to which we must necessarily do this for Old English already is less than ideal, so even more is also troublesome)
  • This Wikipedia has historically been extremely fragmented (and is still somewhat), which in my opinion hugely undermined the quality of the material hosted here. We have just recently made significant moves to unify the source (thanks much to PiRSquared17 with some clever coding to facilitate that), a huge improvement; and some style standardizations. Basically, we have limited human resources, and fragmentation just sucks those resources even more.
  • This is, after all, an Old English Wikipedia
  • The imperative to use and build up ancient languages is nowhere near as strong as living languages, some of which have millions of speakers, but are nevertheless relatively resource-poor (for example, Quechua) - it is done by enthusiasts (myself included) and knowledgable people and interested people, for enthusiasts and knowledgable people and people and interested people - it is culture, which is great; but humanity is not lacking for culture
  • There are many ways to use a language - one need not only use a language on Wikipedia (translating Oliver Twister to Old Saxon is absolutely acceptable) (I am also pretty sure there are a few other free software projects that might be happy enough to be translated into Old Saxon)
  • This Wikipedia is essentially here by grace - under current policy, it would not be allowed to be started; some would like it to cease, construing it as pretty much useless. If this Wikipedia has a promising future, then I think that future is to hold decent, quality content in Old English (more so than currently) as a resource for scholarly or educational purposes
I am sorry to sound so glum, but that is the way I have come to see it. I feel pragmatism is in order.   Ƿes hāl!    10:36, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
No problem I understand this wiki is still ongoing loads of protestations and misunderstandings, I myself had to answer to narrow-minded people that didn't see the beauty behind reviving these old wonderul languages... The least I can do is to work on an Old Saxon wikisource, it is the only project that could be accepted. Anyway I think it could be okay for Old Saxon, in the realm of vocabulary ; thanks to Middle Low German, many roots that were unattested in OSX can be recontructed, and sometimes by comparing Old English and OHG (or other languages), we may be pretty sure that a cognate also existed in OSX. By the way, you spoke about softwares that might be happy to welcome Old Saxon, but can I ask you some? I'm looking for interesting projects involving Old Saxon, and other people to bother with this old language :) --Stardsen (talk) 19:03, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Gottistgut, but a possible solution would be to link to the Old Saxon Wikipedia test project on Incubator somewhere on the Main Page. PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:09, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
Good idea thanks, I will try to make the link thank you --Stardsen (talk) 19:03, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
Looking at [1], [2], and [3], I would conclude that Translatewiki would accept Old Saxon as a new language project. You can see projects translated on Translatewiki here.While some projects would not accept an Old Saxon translation (MediaWiki, Firefox), I think others would, by my experience with their accepting OE translations (FreeCol, for example). I'm pretty sure Battle for Wesnoth would also accept an Old Saxon translation. You may also be able to get some more significant software translations accepted (for example, one of the countless desktop environments available for Linux (Gnome, Unity, Plasma, Cinnamon, XFCE, LXDE, Mate, etc...) - but you would have to try for that yourself by contacting members of the relevant community who have know-so or say-so).   Ƿes hāl!    20:46, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Please explain this deletion. PiRSquared17 (talk) 11:04, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

As it said in the recommendation for deletion: "promotional, no indication of significance"... Do you think otherwise?   Ƿes hāl!    11:14, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
Nah, I agree, but you might want to notify the author (Wōdenhelm). PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:03, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Permanent admin

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Congratulations! m:SRP#Gottistgut.40angwiki. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:37, 18 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Could you please clear the speedy deletion category again? PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:12, 20 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, and sure.   Ƿes hāl!    08:53, 20 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Your favorite category; some pages

[adiht fruman]


Would you please deal with the members of your favorite category?

Also, would you please move Wicipǣdia:Gemǣnscipe_Ingang to Wikipǣdia:Gemǣnscipe_Ingangand delete [[Mōtung:Wicipǣdia:Gemǣnscipe_Ingang]] and Mōtung:Wicipǣdia (or maybe deal with this one in some other way)?


Espreon (talk) 14:55, 22 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Espreon, would you like to run for adminship here? PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:35, 25 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done, done, and done. Hey, just so ya know, I'll be away and unavailable for action for almost a week from tomorrow.   Ƿes hāl!    10:39, 29 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Westernu Australia

[adiht fruman]

I'd not spotted that wyrt sūþerno. On the other hand we have sūðerne rind, also feminine. (In Cwoen sūðerne it might be a weak form "Queen of The South".)

Sweet says that adjectives ending in "-e" don't follow the "u" form, so I took it from that. Hogweard (talk) 12:21, 19 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Adjectives - weak and strong

[adiht fruman]

Thanks for your tireless correction of my overhasty work.

On adjectives, Sweet says (in summary) that the weak form is used:

  1. After the definite article
  2. After þes, þēos, þis etc
  3. Often, but not always, after possessive adjectives and the genitive of pronouns.
  4. Usually, but not invariably, in vocative phrases.
  5. In the comparison of adjectives, and ordinal numbers (other than oþer)

(Mitchell & Robinson are a bit briefer, just saying that The strong form is used when the adj stands alone. The weak form appears when the adj follows a demonstrative or a possessive adjective eg mīn ealda frēond.)

I don't know that there is a rule behind "Often, but not always" after possessives - possibly just idiomatic usage.

Hogweard (talk) 18:10, 5 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

For personal possessive pronouns, they all cause weak declension, except third person (his, hire, heora). Here are some historical examples of third person possessive pronouns not causing weak declension:
  • Mid his ǽwum wífe
  • Æt his sylfes múþe
  • Sécþ his ágen wuldor
  • Be heora ágenum handgewinne lifigeaþ
However, double-checking, I have just now in BT found several examples of third person possessives causing the weak declension, which means that both weak and strong were historically precedented practices for third person possessives. As such, it was inappropriate of me to correct that. I will avoid doing it in the future. Sorry for any inconvencience or confusion. Oh, and here are some examples of it causing weak declension:
  • Gif he ne gehulpe hire sárlícan dreórinysse
  • Gif wé healfunga and be summm dǽle heora gódan weorc secgeaþ
  • Hí nú gyt heora ealdan gewunon healdaþ and from rihtum stígum healtiaþ
  • Hé léde hyne on hys níwan byrgene
My apologies.   Ƿes hāl!    22:42, 7 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)


[adiht fruman]

Ah, that article I rushed when a job come up. I took 'settedon hiera handa þæron' from the word 'handseten', intending "set their hands to it", which is what we might say today too. 'Setan' does have that meaning but a better phrasing may use the noun "handseten", as in these examples from B&T:

Me saldan heora hondsetene ðisse gerædnesse (they put their hands to this agreement)
Her is seo hondseten. Ego Oswald archiepiscopus... (here are the signatures. I Oswald archbishop, etc.)
Ælfred cing Osulfe his hondsetene sealde

If the Treaty was sealed then 'inseglian' would be better.

Hogweard (talk) 08:54, 6 Wēodmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Gecorene gemynddagas

[adiht fruman]

Now lost in the complexities of the programming, but I set the daily bit of the front page up to draw its material from the existing material for "Gecorene gemynddagas". This morning it is showing an old version. The difficulty seems to be that the source material assumes that the month is Æfterra Gēola but the {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} variable produces Se Æfterra Gēola, under which a different set of material has been saved.

Which we use does not matter, but the system has become disjointed this month.

Hogweard (talk) 14:15, 22 Se Æfterra Gēola 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be sorted out today somehow, back to looking at 'Æfterra Gēola'. If I ever have the spare hours I might work out (again) how it all works and see if there is a disjoin that needs resolution. Hogweard (talk) 09:46, 23 Se Æfterra Gēola 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. I myself did not see the glitch.   Ƿes hāl!    20:50, 23 Se Æfterra Gēola 2015 (UTC)[reply]


[adiht fruman]

I have looked at the alternatives and the context in which they are used. Gereord appears to be the best for naming a language. Geþeodu or Geþeode express a national language. Spræc is 'language' in the sense of the capacity for speech, and in the plural it appears to mean "discourses".

The ASC(D) in translating the opening of Bede uses geþeodu.

B&T has a lengthy section of examples of each. The OE Translater is helpful too. It lists Lædenspræc, Lædengereord and Lædengeþeode for 'Latin', which suggests overlapping meanings.

You are correct that gereord is neuter (although it turns up as feminine on occasion). I was quite convinced that it was a masculine noun and I will now have to find all the places I have used it to correct that.

Hogweard (talk) 11:34, 25 Solmōnaþ 2015 (UTC)


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I used wrǣsness for "chain", as in "island chain". In the few minutes I have I can't find the text with that exact form. (Otherwise tēam would work.) Hogweard (talk) 07:02, 8 Ēastermōnaþ 2015 (UTC)

Translating the interface in your language, we need your help

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Hello Gottistgut, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. We updated the list of priority translations and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs about 100 translations or less in the priority list. You're almost done!
Gif þu wilt geycan oððe andwendan awendednesse for eallum wici, bruc translatewiki.net, þæt is se MediaWiki stowlicnesse geweorc.

Please register on translatewiki.net if you didn't yet and then help complete priority translations (make sure to select your language in the language selector). With a couple hours' work or less, you can make sure that nearly all visitors see the wiki interface fully translated. Nemo 14:06, 26 Ēastermōnaþ 2015 (UTC)

Quick question

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Wow, how do you know how to speak Old English? Isn't it considered an extinct language? DimensionQualm (mōtung) 06:58, 16 Sēremōnaþ 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because I was able to learn it from people who had studied ancient Old English documents, and I learned and learn it from ancient Old English documents themselves.
To be clear, I do not care very much if some people somewhere think any particular language is "extinct" - so I don't care if it's "considered extinct". If by "extinct" you mean "has not been used at all for a thousand or so years", that is obviously a wrong opinion. It is true that it is currently not used much at all compared to thousands of other languages, and I am also quite sure that there has been a break between ancient and modern speakers of Old English. It is also true that there are scarcely any people alive who have learnt Old English well as children ("native speakers"). I am fairly confident that it is not true that there are no people alive who learnt Old English as children.
I think that answers your questions.   Ƿes hāl!    09:38, 17 Sēremōnaþ 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your contributions. I've been studying OE independently for over a year and I feel inspired enough to contribute and actually apply what I've learned. I find myself stumbling a bit over the grammar and I would like a second (more experienced) pair of eyes to proofread my work. Is there anyone, like yourself, willing to help me occasionally?

Also, are there any resources (i.e. dictionaries, other users, or certain writings) that have helped you gain such fluency in OE?

Hello, yes, I am happy to proofread your work and try answer any grammar questions you have. Also, a good online dictionary for OE is Bosworth and Toller. Sometimes, it takes a little effort to find what your looking for there, but if there a historical OE word for something recorded anywhere, you can most likely find it there.   Ƿes hāl!    07:54, 6 Winterfylleþ 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Would it be alright if I email you a few drafts some day? You can email me at (my username)@gmail.com with a reply unless you have a better idea for correspondence.

Hi, would you please be so kind an delete this page? See also c:User:Achim55/Sockpuppet investigations, on wikidata d:Q24248446 cannot be deleted as long as there are links to pages on wp projects. Thank you. --Achim55 (mōtung) 13:46, 28 Se Æfterra Gēola 2017 (UTC)[reply]


[adiht fruman]

Hi, I was wondering why the side bar uses "Tōlas" for tools. Since tōl is a neuter monosyllabic noun with a long vowel shouldn't the plural just be "Tōl" not "Tōlas"?


Tentwotwenty (mōtung) 06:18, 8 Hrēþmōnaþ 2017 (UTC)

Looks like it's just a grammatical error. Thanks for pointing it out. I've corrected the translation's source - it might take a while to be updated this end, though.   Ƿes hāl!    06:59, 15 Hrēþmōnaþ 2017 (UTC)

Translation request

[adiht fruman]

Dear Gottisgut, please translate the article about Belarusian writer en:Uladzimir Karatkievich/ de:Uladsimir Karatkewitsch. Thank you in advance.

Translation request

[adiht fruman]

Please translate Kyūscū. From jawiki or enwiki

Translations and styling

[adiht fruman]

Thanks for your note.

The wiki commands are in Translatewiki, and I am sure that there are dodgy ones there. Yes - commands should be in the second person singular imperative. If you can find them, change them. I have had a go at some of them. The concepts are not always missing form OE: 'password' is recorded in B&T as 'aleafnes word' (I think) for example. For some, like "buffer" I had to be more creative, considering a buffer queue like a pen for holding livestock, a pundfald. I have only grazed the surface on a few occasions though.

Putting the year in Roman numerals ("se gewinn ongann in mdcccxiiij") would be authentic but I've not been bothering. A template to convert number might be interesting. I'll think about that. There is one on en:, but it would have to be different on ang: as the subtraction system was not used (viiij not IX), numbers were written in miniscule and the last 'i' was often written longer, as a modern j. Hogweard (mōtung) 08:05, 30 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

I've not found an on-line version of Bede's Opera Didascalica, in which he discusses numbering (De arte metrica). That would give us an authentic eighth century source. We have the Chronicle for dates, but the styles may change: 1065; 1041 to 1046 - in the latter the deduction principle is used (xl for 40), and you also see this a few pages on in the text here with xxxix for 39. On the other hand, we do have iiii for 4 in places.Hogweard (mōtung) 14:07, 31 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
That's good research you did on numbers. You have better resources than I have (and more time on your hands perhaps!) I also can't see (in the Chronicle) the 'j' that some sources say should be the final i in a number.
I hadn't noticed that the ȝƿ version now seems to be the default: I thought the idea was for gw to be the default and ȝƿ an option. I have been typing w. That could be reversed somehow I suppose.Hogweard (mōtung) 23:08, 1 Hāligmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

Remisce gerim

[adiht fruman]

I have created a template for converting Arabic numerals into Roman numerals: {{Remisc rim}}.

It has built-in imitations, which can be altered later: it does not do any number above 5,999 nor fractions nor any with a decimal point, and in those cases it just returns the original Arabic numeral form typed. It is something to start with though, and will deal with years and days, for example.

Thinking about it later, it does not do all the subtractive versions it might (it does ix, xl etc but not ic, xm etc) and I will have to think about how those can be worked in, if they should be. In the Chronicle, at least in one manuscript, '999' is written 'dccccxcviiii'. It is a system which allows for variants. (The template at the moment renders that number as dccccxcix.)

Do you have any material showing how higher numbers would have been written? If so, these could be incorporated.

Hogweard (mōtung) 22:35, 5 Hāligmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

I have just renamed the template, as {{Rim}}. Hogweard (mōtung) 18:01, 6 Hāligmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

Dates, pythons etc

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I moved the date pages for the front page. The content of the pages still needs a lot of improvement. Related date templates should still work, as they use the month number not name. I will eventually tidy up the coding for the dates before and after though. I will leave you to exercise the Python, which is beyond my programming comprehension. Hogweard (motung) 21:22, 22 Haligmonað 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any authentic texts you know of showing whether months should be in the nominative or genitive, in giving a date?
I am familiar with the Chronicle, but there all the dates are in Latin ("on .xviiii. Kalendas Ianuarii") and using nones, ides amd kalends. I would not go that far in authenticity. (Actually, in the Peterborough Chronicle for 732 I see die .x. Iunii mensis.)
If the genitive is to be used in Englisc, that can be set up in Wikidata, in the 'name' property: it is provided for as Slavic languages use the genitive, I understand. First though, we should see if there are texts showing us the right form.
The immediate relevance is that I moved all 366 'On this day' articles to the new versions of the month names, and may have to move them again. I am about to add a {{Dægmæl}} template to each one (where they currently say in the headline, for example "14 Ƿinterfylleþ"), but should that be 14 Winterfylleð or 14 Winterfylleðes (or .xiiii. Winterfylleðes)? Hogweard (motung) 14:32, 14 Winterfylleð 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for a comprehensive note on dates. That being so, we have to work out how best to reflect it.
In Wikidata, if you look at the entry for February, it has a 'Name' property in which I have inserted 'Solmonaþes' for Old English, and under 'criterion used': 'genitive case'. I have just added Wintyerfyleð too. So far so good (just 10 more to do, and deciding whether to elide the "e" in the genitive in each case). Then the fdate can be given using {{Dægmæl}}: ("17. dæg Mædmonþes").
Erm; I had put a ð in Wikidata, rather than a þ, which does not matter in text, but the computer has to know what to point to. Is the þ version in Metawiki? Hogweard (motung) 08:31, 20 Winterfylleð 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I also fiddled with {{Monþes nama‎}} to add the option of a genitive version so that {{monþes nama|2|g}} produces 'Solmonþes' but you might want to check whether the versions I picked (particularly for January and December) are appropriate, or correct them, in {{monaþnaman}}.Hogweard (motung) 09:18, 20 Winterfylleð 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I went through every "On this day" page (eg Wikipǣdia:Gecorene gemynddagas/27 Winterfylleð) and in the heading, where it gave the date, I substituted a {{dægmæl}} template, eg {{dægmæl|27|10}}, which produces '27. dæg Winterfylleðes'. That way if I have got the names wrong, they can be changed all in one rather than going through page by page. I am not sure about January in particular, where it produces 1. dæg þæs Æfterran Geola.
(To go through all the dates quickly, I used an Excel spreadsheet which generated the web addresses of their edit screens and a macro to open them all at once, month by month.)
The next steps wil be deciding what all these 'Gecorene gemynddagas' pages should actually be called, and renaming them.
Then there are some pages for specific months or dates, eg 1. Blōtmōnðes. (I only counted 56 of these.) They may need renaming, to remove macros or whatever. I can then adjust the {{dægmæl}} template to link to any such page if it is there.
A later step would be to go through all the date pages and translate them properly, but at that stage I run off and hide under a table.
I would be glad if you could have a look at the forms of date in each case, and these could be tied up. Hogweard (motung) 12:07, 27 Winterfylleð 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December - wrong name

[adiht fruman]

We've got the name wrong for December. The one now programmed in is 'Ærra Geol', but looking at B&T, that means "formerly called Geol". It has ' Mónaþ Decembris ærra iúla' and 'ǣrra geóla the ere or former Yule month, December, Menol. Fox 439; Men. 221.

I think it's going to have to be changed. There is an entry:

Geóla, Iúla, an; m. [geól Yule] The YULE or Christmas month, that is, December :-- Se æ-acute;rra geóla the ere, or former yule, December. Se æftera géóla the after yule, January. Se mónaþ is nemned on Leden. Decembris, and on úre geþeóde se æ-acute;rra geóla, forðan ða mónþas twegen syndon nemde ánum naman, óðer se æ-acute;rra geóla [December], óðer se æftera mensis [Januarius] hic vocatur Latine December, nostra vero lingua prior Geola, quoniam duo sunt menses qui uno nomine gaudent, alter Geola prior [December], alter posterior [January], Hick. Thes. i. 212, 56; Shrn. 153, 23-6. [Goth. jiuleis, m.]

Would it be just 'Geola' then?

Hogweard (motung) 19:10, 7 Blotmonað 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, but ærra means "former". The texts also have ærra Liða for June; the former Liða.
Do you have ref for the Leechbook? I have lost many of the links I used to have to texts.Hogweard (motung) 15:51, 22 Blotmonað 2020 (UTC)[reply]
[adiht fruman]

I have been considering redrawing the logo as an SVG. I like it, and would not think of doing a whole new one - I just think it would be fitting to draw it in high-definition in a vector format. That means finding high-resolution copies of the original artwork. For the Ƿ, I can see this comes from the illuminated 'q' on a page of the Lindisfarne Gospels, but you have done a lot of hard work to adapt it. Hats off and all that. I have a good copy of that page. Where though did the 'E' come from?

I can see if these can be redrawn without losing detail. This is a longer term project because I am (a) busy and more particularly (b) not an artist. Still, I have been playing with SVG for years now and I could make a good run at it. Hogweard (motung) 23:31, 23 Blotmonað 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I forget actually where the e came from. Sorry. I've been busy with exams, that's why I haven't been on here for a while. -- Gottistgut -- Ƿes hāl! 08:56, 10 Gēolmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have found the E, and that it is in the Lindisfarne Gospels but not on one of the pages the British Library displays in its full glory.
When I zoomed in on some of the illuminated letters on pages featured by the British Library, I was amazed at the detail. Trying to reproduce it as an SVG would be an immense challenge. I will look at one leaf at a time, then zoom out and find that it is just a tiny corner of one letter. Hogweard (motung) 13:46, 10 Gēolmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my Les Tres Bessones Translation Article!

[adiht fruman]

Why?,Its a translation from en:The Triplets LeoKids123 (motung) 17:06, 11 Gēolmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Finding grammar and texts

[adiht fruman]

I have puzzling over one thing, which led to a wider question. You might have some ideas.

I was looking for is the imperative of þeon ('to thrive'). The singular imperative of seon is seoh, but þeon is of a different verb class, so it might be þieh, or 'þeoh'. It may be that in the entire corpus of Old English the verb 'þeon' never appears in the imperative or in the subjunctive.

(It does not help that spelling is inconsistent even in the cases in which the word is used.)

This leads to the question: is there any accessible resource of which you are aware which could answer questions like this, with reference to the entire corpus?

Hogweard (motung) 07:09, 5 Eastermonað 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How we will see unregistered users

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18:10, 4 Se Æfterra Gēola 2022 (UTC)

Remove protection from redirect

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Could you remove the protection from Héafodsíde, it is a double redirect that can't be fixed due to it being protected. But the protection seems kinda unnecessary. Thanks --Zabe (motung) 17:22, 15 Se Æfterra Gēola 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your advanced permissions on angwiki

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