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Wes hal! How are you? PiRSquared17 (talk) 06:30, 10 Se Æfterra Gēola 2013 (UTC)[reply]


[adiht fruman]

Okay. BTW, have you seen my revised proposal for the ȝƿ page version on the main pages talk?   Ƿes hāl!    21:25, 16 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

How to update system messages

[adiht fruman]

I have done a lot of work tidying up the Wikimedia system messages, but it mostly does not seem to be appearing. How to cause to appear on this Wikipedia?   Ƿes hāl!    11:25, 28 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Re:Automated conversion of script for Hakka

[adiht fruman]

I have left my message here. --DaveZ122 (talk) 05:40, 30 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)[reply]


[adiht fruman]

I've replied on my talk page.   Ƿes hāl!    22:01, 30 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)


[adiht fruman]

Hey. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll go through my contribs and make sure I rectify any merges I have performed in the wrong direction. Delusion23 (talk) 17:37, 18 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Bit of both I suppose. I've been going through Special:UnconnectedPages, fixing any conflicts and duplicates I could find there with the help of Wikidata. I've been doing this for a few small Wikipedias, but have a soft spot for the languages of Britain. Delusion23 (talk) 18:20, 19 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

My adminship

[adiht fruman]

As you recommended, I have nominated myself for adminship again. Please see my call for re-election here.   Ƿes hāl!    22:25, 11 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC) Sōcne getæl ŪtmeldianInmeldianWeorces trametMōtungRǣdanAdihtan frumanStǣr

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[adiht fruman]

Thanks for the note, but would it be better on Brūcendmōtung:Birdofadozentides?

I've practically given up, with the wiki's having been subsumed to his wynnsome ways. Hogweard (mōtung) 15:56, 30 Sēremōnaþ 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hogweard, I've stopped my visual edits for that option is fixed now. May I ask you some questions please? It's about this option, PiRSquared17 can make capital G to stay the same in 'ȝƿ' and 'ᵹƿ', so only small g will be turned into ȝ or ᵹ.

Would you like that? Capital G in Old English was written so close to modern one, and I think it'll be right if capital G stays the same in this option. I'd like it to be in 'ᵹƿ' the best, 'cause I use this one the most. I think it's necessary to ask Gottistgut's opinion, but I don't know if they are active now.

Please answer on my mōtung page, so PiRSquared17 will notice it. (Only now noticed that it is PiRSquared17's mōtung page, I somehow thought it was yours. So PiRSquared17 would notice it anyway. But you also said this converstion would look better on my page). I hope I'm not a bother. --Birdofadozentides (mōtung) 16:56, 5 Mǣdmōnaþ 2018 (UTC)


[adiht fruman]

Hello, I am an administrator of vec.wiki, I wanted to ask if we could copy this "extension" and adapt it to our needs. It seems respectful to me first to ask, it is really very interesting and could help us a lot to allow reading in all types of Veneti writing. I await a polite reply. Thanks and a good job!! --Fierodelveneto (mōtung) 09:08, 16 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

User:Fierodelveneto, ciao. Feel free to use it. It's open source obviously, this is Wikipedia after all. :) PiRSquared17 (mōtung) 02:44, 26 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I thought and still believe respectful to warn you, before taking advantage of your work !! A greeting and thank you. --Fierodelveneto (mōtung) 08:41, 26 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

Request to modify script selection switch

[adiht fruman]

To my shame, I am not well-versed enough in the technology running Wikipedia to skillfully modify the script selector you so helpfully implemented here long ago.

While the script selector did resolve much of the angst around here surrounding differing writing implementations, I have come to the conclusion that its current selection of scripts is fairly inelegant.

In terms of the ȝƿ version, I have long since realized that using yogh in Old English is entirely ahistorical, and I have no idea why it ever caught on with anyone. I can only say I ever supported that standard, out of ignorance. I request that the ȝƿ version be replaced with a gƿ and macronless version (in other words, macron vowels are represented without macrons). This is about as historically normative as you will get, short of a full font workover - which nicely albeit inelegantly is available from the widget on the sidebar. If people want to read relatively authentically, then gƿ-macronless a good option to do so.

Basically, ȝƿ is ahistorical and meaningless in the context of OE. It has no advantages to its name.

Implementing GǷ and macronless vowels may come as a surprising request. However, historically, Old English script did not reliably represent length of vowels. They did sometimes use acute-like diacratics, but these do not have a full correlation with vowel length - I don't think it's entirely agreed what their function is. They are generally thought to mean something to do with word stress. Perhaps they were similar to Modern English bolding or italicization of words - but they weren't for vowel length, and they weren't macrons.

Macrons are inauthentic devices intended to help learners, much like using ċġ for palatalization.

I also request you remove the insular gƿ option - it looks hideous and is very far from a thorough implementation of the suitable font (greatly undermining its value for authenticity or such).

I requested comment on this proposal many months ago on Main Page talkpage, but regrettably haven't had any.

You'll note I haven't been active on here for a long time, and I don't really intend to become majorly active again. It became insufferable to me to be correcting so many trivial grammar mistakes, and trying to clean up so much general legacy systemic messiness on this Wikipedia. But perhaps I can bear to allow myself to contribute again in a minor way.

-- Gottistgut -- Ƿes hāl! 10:13, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)

I agree with all that. It is a good analysis. It will be quite a challenge, but if there are bots, and something to pick the up on any duplicate pages that appear, if any, then it can be done. Hogweard (mōtung) 12:19, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
User:Gottistgut, User:Hogweard: I've gone ahead with removing the yogh and insular g options. But I'm a bit confused about what options you actually want to have. For example, you correctly pointed out that yogh is ahistorical, but do you still want a way to toggle between 'w' and 'ƿ'? Would just having "standard", "macronless", and "runes" be good? PiRSquared17 (mōtung) 21:00, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
So, the standards I am suggesting are: runes (problematic, but maybe they'll make someone happy - better than doubling pages with runic source version), default, and gƿ-macronless. Yes, still include a wynn version, because that is most historically authentic, and perhaps people like it. Just get rid of the yogh, and also make it macronless (I would suspect that if someone wanted wynn for authenticity, they would also rather not read modern diacritics). -- Gottistgut -- Ƿes hāl! 22:09, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
Hogweard: I assume you are also referring to the post I made you your talk page? -- Gottistgut -- Ƿes hāl! 22:14, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
I was only commenting on the bit about macrons and yogh / wynn. (I'd be happy with having a variant like the one we have had hitherto where the user can see every 'w' as 'ƿ'. Yogh isn't authentic, but an insular g ,ᵹ, as the miniscule but never the majuscule version would be something we could do.)
I put a message on your Talk page about how to reform the grammar of the system messages as you suggested, and about Roman numerals.Hogweard (mōtung) 14:16, 31 Wēodmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry to bother you all but the problem is I don't see any option with ƿynn at the top of every page like it used to be. I see only [ gw ] and the runes option. I've read about user:Gottistgut's suggestion to remove ȝ and macrons, I agree with them, I like ȝ but it's not an Old English letter. It was used to represent insular g because insular g is not shown on some devices. I agree about macrons, having an option to show pages also without them would be nice. [ ᵹƿ ] was my favorite option, it's a pity it's not liked. [ gƿ ] option without macrons is good idea.
But there was never a suggestion to remove ƿynn option, is it just me who is missing it now? I hope with all my might it's just for me, because otherwise I lose an understanding of what's happening. I'm so sorry I never showed up, I think I am such a pig for didn't noticing this conversation earlier, but I was sure everything was alright, this option saved the day two years ago. Now when all Wiktionary ƿynn entries are deleted, I needed so be sure it's going well here, and suddenly I see no ƿynn option. Birdofadozentides (motung) 02:27, 8 Blotmonað 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't quite understand anymore how it works. Birdofadozentides (motung) 14:57, 8 Blotmonað 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're correct. That option does not show. Ideally, there should be a gƿ option. Could you please implement that, PiRSquared17? -- Gottistgut -- Ƿes hāl! 08:48, 10 Gēolmōnaþ 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gottistgut, I don't know why, but I only noticed your reply now. There was just no notification. It's sad that it wasn't fixed, I hope PiRSquared17 is alright. --Birdofadozentides (motung) 23:55, 5 Eastermonað 2021 (UTC)[reply]