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Wucedagas[adiht fruman]

How did you intend wuces dæg vs. wucedæg? Wucu is feminine, so its genitive is simply wuce. --James

You're quite right. Thanks. --Saforrest 16:20, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Séo þone tramet ofer "Wódnesdæge" - betra? -- James

Thanks for the weekday additions! --James 14:27, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hwæt?[adiht fruman]

Hey, what were the last 2 changes you made? I tried clicking and couldn't tell...redirects? -- James

Yes, I redirected Sæturnesdæg to Sæternesdæg. Both seem to be used in various places, but I found more instances of the latter online, so that's the one I decided to use. --Saforrest 19:32, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Gemǽnscipe Ingang[adiht fruman]

Do you know if there's a way to get the community portal to simply be a link to Gemǽnscipe Ingang instead of a redirect? I know the interface isn't in OE just yet, so I was wondering if we should simply use the English links, then redo it later when the interface is switched over, or if doing it now would be easier. --James 14:11 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hrodulf se hrándéor[adiht fruman]

Is there a way to redo what I did so that the page's history is transferred properly? --James

Interface Names[adiht fruman]

I got the FromWikipedia to work, so it should be ok now. I'm slowly moving the interface over, since (a) I'm getting busier with schoolwork, and (b) I want to ease people into the OE words for everything. But, please do continue making suggestions on the Special:AllMessages page as to what the translations should be...I appreciate all the help I can get! --James 21:04, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Categorizing[adiht fruman]

Þú wrát:-
Hi Anthony. If you wish to add something to a category, such as Category:Human societies, you can do so by adding the tag [ [ Category:Human societies ] ] at the bottom of the text of the article you wish to add, rather than modifying the category page. In any case, it would be good to use an OE equivalent, rather than 'Human societies'.


If I add a tag line Category:qwertyuiop, where qwertyuiop is a category name which there is not a category file for yet, will Wikipedia automatically create a new category file for it?
Or, how do I create a new category file?
How can I find a list of all the category files, so I am not duplicating? Anthony Appleyard 06:39, 27 Oct 2004

Hi. I want to invite you to participate in a new project, Translation of the week. Danny 19:15, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

George Bush[adiht fruman]

Hey - the page is unprotected for you to edit. I would tend to prefer to keep current political figures (Bush, Kerry, Blair, etc.) protected so that their opponents don't mess around with their pages. But have at it with your contributions. --James 17:57, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wiki-list[adiht fruman]

Hey, ús helpe gif þu forðie þá wici-getale (wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org), and sprece ymbe úserne Wicipǽdian, and his micelnesrím... --James 22:03, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

And ascie óðerum websteddum gif híe macien bendas hértó? --James 07:44, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Translation of the week[adiht fruman]

Currently we have started a project on meta.wikipedia to get an article translated in as many wikipedias as possible every week. The article will be about a subject that usually gets rarely translated and has a lot of links to other subjects. Currently we have no-one to translate in your language. If someone is interested to participate please see: meta:Translation of the week You can also submit articles from your own languages there that you think deserve translation, but have a small chance of it. The articles must not be to short and not to long and have lots of links to possible other articles! en:user:Waerth

Thanks![adiht fruman]

Thanks for covering me and completing the landbox template... I suddenly got rather ill and wasn't able to create or edit much of anything... :-( Harðor Holtakarl Vilhjálmusson 16:12, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Earsgangǽrendan[adiht fruman]

I blocked the two spamming addresses for 24 hours each. Spamming is not to be tolerated on this or any wiki. --James 21:34, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wikiquote/Wiktionary[adiht fruman]

These two Anglo-Saxon Wikis were just started if you'd like to contribute there also. --James 01:11, 11 ÆGé 2005 (UTC)

Thanks[adiht fruman]

Thanks for the welcome, as well as fixing my error in the Ontario page. As I'm quite new to Old English, I'm liable to make other mistakes. I hope (and expect) that I'll get better with practice. :)

--Volrath50 21:24, 7 Hré 2005 (UTC)

More Thanks[adiht fruman]

I just wanted to say I especially admire your (and James') compendious editing here. I am impressed with this project you all have going here. --Walda 02:56, 15 Mǽdmónaþ 2005 (UTC)

Accents/Macrons[adiht fruman]

I only created the macron version to showcase the differences in how the characters are displayed. I did the same for Gúþ betwéonan þǽm Rícum to show how they look in the page and the title (they look funny in the title). I have not started switching anything over, and will not until we have a vote on it. Seems the fair thing to do for everyone here. --James 06:23, 31 Wéodmónaþ 2005 (UTC)

Ōðeru vs. Ōðru[adiht fruman]

I checked Bosworth and Toller, and Ōðeru appears (1 time) and Ōðru appears 16 times.--James 22:16, 9 Háligmónaþ 2005 (UTC)

Singular/Plural category names[adiht fruman]

Sorry about the Sprǣca - should be singular like our other ones. I got in a bit of an editing rush, and overlooked that. Check out the Allium-related stuff too. --James 03:03, 21 Hāligmōnaþ 2005 (UTC)

Direction of the Wiki[adiht fruman]

On a different note, are there any specific areas you think we should concentrate on, perhaps some monthly themes/collaborations to improve the wiki, say, to Englisc the wiki's shortest modern English containing articles, adding language articles, country articles, plant articles, etc.? Perhaps have a weekly collaboration within that? --James 03:03, 21 Hāligmōnaþ 2005 (UTC)

I suggest doing what the Latin wikipedia did in it's early days, concentrating on articles relevant to the area/period. Don't bother with difficult articles like en:Helicopter, but stick to creating things like þagn and fixing Ēadweard se Ieldra. Nickshanks 08:19, 4 Winterfylleþ 2005 (UTC)

Macron/Acute in IE[adiht fruman]

Hey, can you see the ǣ/ȳ in IE on your computer on the Main page? Ado just made a change that worked on my computer to the font style, and I was wondering if it worked for you as well. --James 07:21, 23 Hāligmōnaþ 2005 (UTC)

Please vote in the Macron/Accute poll (Anthony's idea to hold another...send me an e-mail) --James 07:47, 24 Hāligmōnaþ 2005 (UTC)

Macrons representing ommitted nasalations[adiht fruman]

Now that there has been a decision to use macrons across the wiki, how should one represent, when quoting an original passage, omitted nasalations? For example when bocū is written for bocum? Nickshanks 08:22, 4 Winterfylleþ 2005 (UTC)

Ang.wikisource[adiht fruman]

I noticed that the ang.wikisource was created today. I did not even realize that there had been a request for one. I invite you and anyone else interested to continue adding anglo-saxon texts to en.wikisource instead. I feel there is little advantage to keep a seperate wikisource for anglo-saxon. The editors there will simply have less time to work on actual texts as they must duplicate all the administrative work already being done at en.wikisource. Just getting the most basic policies and templates together takes a great deal of time. Since texts at wikisource are pretty much static it very condusive to having all Anglo-Saxon, Middle English, Scots, Archaic, and Modern English texts together. It will be more efficient to simply use the infastructure that has already been developed. In any event I plan to continue adding to the anglo-saxon collection at en.wikisource in order to create a variety of comparative texts. Duplicating this work does not seem to me the best direction to take. en:User:BirgitteSB

Request[adiht fruman]

Hello. I have got one request for you. I need sentence "sugar in 370 languages" in Anglo-Saxon (I want to do a logo of my site). So, can you write me what`s called sentence "sugar in 370 languages" in Anglo-Saxon language? Thank you very much! Szoltys TALK

Portal[adiht fruman]

Hey! I've been out of town at OCS, but I just got back, and I checked it out - the equivalent Níwe Englisc page is just the words "community portal," which is odd...hmm...perhaps we should make it our portal center? --James 01:45, 8 Wēodmōnaþ 2006 (UTC)

Byrialbot[adiht fruman]

Hello Saforrest. You seem to be one of the few local active persons on this Wikipedia. As you may have noted I have started to run the bot Byrialbot here in order to update interwiki links. If it is marked as a bot, its contributions will no longer appear in the recent changes page (unless you select the "show bots" link) so the "real" changes will be easier to spot. I made a request for a bot flag. I invite you to give your opinion on the request. If the request gets local support, I can afterwards ask a steward at the Meta-Wiki to grant the bot flag. Thank you. Byrial 07:40, 6 Mǣdmōnaþ 2007 (UTC)

Folcmorþ[adiht fruman]

If you're looking for the genitive, it's folces in the singular (of the folk, folk's), folca in the plural (of folks, folks'). Folcum is the dative plural (for/to the people). Folcamorðor might work for the OE here if it's murder of many folk. Good work on those updates there, btw. --James 03:47, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2007 (UTC)

A little help[adiht fruman]

Hi! I'm a Hungarian Wiki-editor, my name is norbert kiss. Unfortunately I don't speak Anglo-Saxon so well, but I tried to read about my village in this language: Ecser. If you could see it, and the English version, could you write more about it? I have a grammar about this language, but I have no dictionary... hu:User:Eino81

Stillehæf[adiht fruman]

I belive you created the Stillehæf article. I was about to move it to "Sericus Garsecg" but I'm letting you yell an objection first.

"Se garsecg se mon hateþ Sericus" is in Ælfred's Orosius, from the Latin "Oceanus Sericus" ("Silken Ocean" or in context "Chinese Ocean").

We usually think of the Pacific as a western ocean unknown until Balboa stood on a peak at Darien, named first by Magellan emerging from the storm-tossed Straits, but of course it washes the ancient East too!

(Ishæf is found too as "Sarmondisc garsecg", though only in the context of the sea north of Russia. I'm not about to hit that one yet.)

At some point I will create an Orosius article, with a useful ISBN.

Hogweard 15:26, 22 Winterfylleþ 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back[adiht fruman]

Welcome back. It is good to see another editor.

I would counsel against writing any article with "G" or "W" in the name, or indeed anywhere in the text; look what has happened to all of mine...

Hogweard 21:23, 16 Gēolmōnaþ 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thing of it is...[adiht fruman]

There really are no conventions at all regarding ȝ/ġ/g and ƿ/w. I have several OE books, all of which use various proprietary rules, within their own writings. The lack of ȝ and ƿ seems to be nothing more than modern users being conservative about an alphabet that they grew up with. The way I see it, a user should not (for example) write an article on the Japanese wikipedia if they do not intend to use Japanese writing. See what I mean?

In any case, for the longest time, it was just me editing this wiki, with James popping up once in a blue moon (who now doesnt care for me very much, ever since I tried to become an admin. guess he thinks he owns this wiki or something), then Hogweard comes about (who is the absolutely most inconsistent speller I've ever seen in my life), soooo I took it upon myself to establish some standardization into this wiki, and bring it up to par. Quite frankly, I think this wiki is now far better, as I've written a few lengthy articles, established and standardized alot of core categories and placed them into a proper hierarchy, putting up language links (thereby integrating Ang into the rest of the Wikipedia world), as well as putting Commons tags on various significant pages pertaining to modern topics.

Ultimately, I wont lie, I'm stubborn about ȝ and ƿ, but it's because I think it's silly to exclude them (if we're gonna do that, then let's just obliterate þ and ð while we're at it), and I find ȝ to be extremely useful. Hogweard's only complaint is having those letters in titles, when I've told him that we can create Redirects to solve the typing issue, for those who do not have/use custom keyboard layouts. I personally will be more than happy to create 50 redirects for each article on this entire wiki, according to each and every single possible spelling a person could conjure up. I'll even redirect from modern names if he'd like. —Ƿōdenhelm 04:23, 18 Gēolmōnaþ 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vote in new poll[adiht fruman]

Please vote in the Style vote poll, especially regarding using yogh/wynn --James 17:54, 27 Gēolmōnaþ 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not alter orthography[adiht fruman]

Ultimately we've decided to simply leave things as-is, that none of us will alter orthography, and that we will honor both ȝ/ƿ and g/w. Your alterations will only start that whole thing back up again. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ 19:11, 22 Solmōnaþ 2009 (UTC)

I do admit my error in mass-converting orthography initially, but my intention was innovation in what I saw as incorrect/erronous orthography. A compromise to the issue that I came up with, was multiple page versions, as is done on the Gothic Wikipedia. An example would be the Sciþþisc īsmæȝden page. If you'd like, I can also do this with various tables that we use, so that the table text can also match the style of each page. We settled the agreement (although not on that page, but rather through talkpages) noting that in some languages or wikis, standardization is not honored, or even abhorred, such as Scots, as well as the British/American spelling split of the English wiki. Me, I'd rather just honor multiple page versions so that we can get past all that mess, and continue progress. And so far, progress has been rather nice, if you've taken a look. I'll go ahead and make an alternate ȝƿ version for William's page then, just to demonstrate its peacemaking abilities. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ 00:21, 23 Solmōnaþ 2009 (UTC)