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Wilcume tō þǣm Þorpes Wellan![adihtan]

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Ǣsce and Andswaru Hēr - English Spoken Here

Bot flag requests[adihtan]

More opportunities for you to access free research databases[adihtan]

The quest to get editors free access to the sources they need is gaining momentum.

  • Credo Reference provides full-text online versions of nearly 1200 published reference works from more than 70 publishers in every major subject, including general and subject dictionaries and encyclopedias. There are 125 full Credo 350 accounts available, with access even to 100 more references works than in Credo's original donation. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
  • HighBeam Research has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications including newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias. Thousands of new articles are added daily, and archives date back over 25 years covering a wide range of subjects and industries. There are 250 full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
  • Questia is an online research library for books and journal articles focusing on the humanities and social sciences. Questia has curated titles from over 300 trusted publishers including 77,000 full-text books and 4 million journal, magazine, and newspaper articles, as well as encyclopedia entries. There will soon be 1000 full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.

You might also be interested in the idea to create a central Wikipedia Library where approved editors would have access to all participating resource donors. Add your feedback to the Community Fellowship proposal. Apologies for the English message (translate here). Go sign up :) --Ocaasi (talk) 02:10, 16 Wēodmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program[adihtan]

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I apologize for addressing you in English. I would be grateful if you could translate this message into your language.

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)01:45, 6 Hāligmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out[adihtan]

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(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.)

As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

  1. language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
  2. infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
  3. lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

For further discussions please use this talk page (if you are uncomfortable writing in English you can also write in your native language there) or point me to the place where your discussion is happening so I can answer there.

--Lydia Pintscher 13:05, 10 Hāligmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)

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Upcoming software changes - please report any problems[adihtan]

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(Apologies if this message isn't in your language. Please consider translating it)

All Wikimedia wikis - including this one - will soon be upgraded with new and possibly disruptive code. This process starts today and finishes on October 24 (see the upgrade schedule & code details).

Please watch for problems with:

  • revision diffs
  • templates
  • CSS and JavaScript pages (like user scripts)
  • bots
  • PDF export
  • images, video, and sound, especially scaling sizes
  • the CologneBlue skin

If you notice any problems, please report problems at our defect tracker site. You can test for possible problems at test2.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which have already been updated.

Thanks! With your help we can find problems fast and get them fixed faster.

Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 02:40, 16 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)

P.S.: For the regular, smaller MediaWiki updates every two weeks, please watch this schedule.

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Fundraising localization: volunteers from outside the USA needed[adihtan]

Please translate for your local community

Hello All,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Fundraising team have begun our 'User Experience' project, with the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries outside the USA and enhancing the localization of our donation pages. I am searching for volunteers to spend 30 minutes on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real-time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. Please sing up and help us with our 'User Experience' project! :) If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!

Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

Sent using Global message delivery, 16:45, 17 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)

Different pages for different spellings[adihtan]

Hello, wesaþ hale,

I have noticed that there are different pages for different spelling styles: GW, ȝƿ, and runes. I think it would be possible to have one page, and automatically generate the others (using JavaScript). Thoughts? PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:36, 21 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)

It was a compromise to avoid ingewinn; the Wiki was about to be torn apart and it is an old argument, painful to recall. Were it possible to do as you suggest, that would certanly be a way forward.
Runes are an esoteric variant just added because they could be. The main difference was an argument about whether to use "w" or "ƿ".
Ƿ is authentic (though W is not unknown in authentic text) but textbooks rarely use Ƿ; we have all been taught using W. I suggested an optional font which shows every W as a Ƿ but there was an obbjection that they would stll want to see "George W Bush" not "George Ƿ Bush". I can't see the logical distinction myself.
Ȝ is more peculiar: it became an independent letter only in the later Middle Ages. It is not authentic in Old English except that in Old English writing the letter G is shaped "G" in majuscule and "ȝ" in miniscule; it is just the shape of "g" in that script not a letter itself. Those advocating its use want to use G for the hard sound and Ȝ for the soft sound, a distinction not found in Old English.
We could then have an option to show "W" as "Ƿ" if that is the reader's preference, and to show "g" as "ȝ", and indeed an option for runes. Is it possible though?
Hogweard (talk) 08:41, 22 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)
What you said in the last line would definitely be possible, unless we need to make a distinction between soft/hard G. If we do that, we would need a list of every word with soft G (not possible). So... do we need to make that distinction? PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:00, 23 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)
I can't see how one could make the distinction between a hard G and a soft G. Apart from there being no agreement about how my ancestors pronounced each word, and that a G would change from soft to hard depending on the context, there is no distinction made in written Englisc. Hogweard (talk) 12:16, 23 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
I have created a script to convert between the various orthographic styles in use on the Anglo-Saxon Wikipedia. To install it, go to Special:MyPage/common.js and add importScript("User:PiRSquared17/spellingstyle.js"); to the bottom. (you may have to clear your cache, and it only works if JavaScript is enabled) Is that good? If so it can be made into a gadget in preferences. PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:56, 25 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)
Note: Using this script, it is possible, as suggested, to leave some letters/runes alone without conversion (like the "George W. Bush" example, or perhaps the page about runes). I made it so anything in <span class="nochange">Insert text here</span> is left unchanged. Examples: George W Bush will not change, whether converted to GW, yogh+wynn, or runes. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:17, 25 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)

I tried it, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at (nor indeed what "clear your cache" means, and what it would do to everything else even if I knew). What am I meant to see? Hogweard (talk) 23:14, 15 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)

Clearing your cache may not be neccessary to use this script, but instructions are available on w:Wikipedia:Bypass_your_cache. After you do that: at the top of every page, there should be "[ gw ] [ ȝƿ ] [ ᚱᚢᚾ ]" (right above the article text). For an example, try Ēotaland. You can also go to a page written in runes and convert to Latin! (using the same technique). I have an improved version I will upload if this works for you. Cheers, PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:45, 16 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)
Aha! It works in Firefox, but not in IE9. Hogweard (talk) 20:11, 17 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, I wonder why it doesn't work in IE9 -- I'll investigate this some more. PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:03, 17 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)
Nothing ever works in IE. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 00:09, 18 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)
+ Works nicely for Google Chrome on Windows 7. If I ever get around to firing up Ubuntu Linux I'll test on there too. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 00:13, 18 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)
It is now working on IE8 & IE9. Well done. Hogweard (talk) 20:27, 19 Blōtmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)

Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer![adihtan]

Thank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.

I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!

Thanks!

Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Read-only mode expected.[adihtan]

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) Next week, the Wikimedia Foundation will transition its main technical operations to a new data center in Ashburn, Virginia, USA. This is intended to improve the technical performance and reliability of all Wikimedia sites, including this wiki. There will be some times when the site will be in read-only mode, and there may be full outages; the current target windows for the migration are January 22nd, 23rd and 24th, 2013, from 17:00 to 01:00 UTC (see other timezones on timeanddate.com). More information is available in the full announcement.

If you would like to stay informed of future technical upgrades, consider becoming a Tech ambassador and joining the ambassadors mailing list. You will be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Thank you for your help and your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 15:00, 19 Se Æfterra Gēola 2013 (UTC)

Picture of the Year voting round 1 open[adihtan]

Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2012 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We're interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year for 2012. Voting is open to established Wikimedia users who meet the following criteria:

  1. Users must have an account, at any Wikimedia project, which was registered before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC].
  2. This user account must have more than 75 edits on any single Wikimedia project before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC]. Please check your account eligibility at the POTY 2012 Contest Eligibility tool.
  3. Users must vote with an account meeting the above requirements either on Commons or another SUL-related Wikimedia project (for other Wikimedia projects, the account must be attached to the user's Commons account through SUL).

Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons features pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you can vote for as many images as you like. The first round category winners and the top ten overall will then make it to the final. In the final round, when a limited number of images are left, you must decide on the one image that you want to become the Picture of the Year.

To see the candidate images just go to the POTY 2012 page on Wikimedia Commons.

Wikimedia Commons celebrates our featured images of 2012 with this contest. Your votes decide the Picture of the Year, so remember to vote in the first round by January 30, 2013.

Thanks,
the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee

This message was delivered based on m:Distribution list/Global message delivery. Translation fetched from: commons:Commons:Picture of the Year/2012/Translations/Village Pump/en -- Rillke (talk) 23:44, 22 Se Æfterra Gēola 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to close ang.wikibooks[adihtan]

Someone has proposed to close Wikibec (ang.wikibooks.org). We need to revive the project if we want to save it! I'm scared that it will be deleted. PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:27, 30 Se Æfterra Gēola 2013 (UTC)

Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab[adihtan]

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I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

  • Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
  • Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
  • Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?

Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 20:05, 30 Se Æfterra Gēola 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata phase 1 (language links) coming to this Wikipedia[adihtan]

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Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally.

Wikidata has been in development for a few months now. It is now time for the roll-out of the first part of it on your Wikipedia. Phase 1 is the support for the management of language links. It is already being used on the Hungarian, Hebrew, Italian and English Wikipedias. The next step is to enable the extension on all other Wikipedias. We have currently planned this for March 6.

What is Wikidata?[adihtan]

Wikidata is a central place to store data that you can usually find in infoboxes. Think of it as something like Wikimedia Commons but for data (like the number of inhabitants of a country or the length of a river) instead of multimedia. The first part of this project (centralizing language links) is being rolled out now. The more fancy things will follow later.

What is going to happen?[adihtan]

Language links in the sidebar are going to come from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.

Where can I find more information and ask questions?[adihtan]

Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata[adihtan]

To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages. You can see previous editions here.

--Lydia Pintscher 16:00, 21 Solmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata phase 1 (language links) live on this Wikipedia[adihtan]

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Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

As I annonced 2 weeks ago, Wikidata phase 1 (language links) has been deployed here today. Language links in the sidebar are coming from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. It'd be great if you could bring this to this wiki if that has not already happened. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.

--Lydia Pintscher 22:50, 6 Hrēþmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful[adihtan]

(Please consider translating this message for the benefit of your fellow Wikimedians)

Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.

If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system. 18:33, 13 Hrēþmōnaþ 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) coming to this Wikipedia[adihtan]

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Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. It is soon time to enable the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) and things are looking good. The next step is English Wikipedia. This is planned for April 8. If everything works out fine we will deploy on all remaining Wikipedias on April 10. I will update this part of the FAQ if there are any issues forcing us to change this date. I will also sent another note to this village pump once the deployment is finished.

What will happen once we have phase 2 enabled here? Once it is enabled in a few days you will be able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!)

How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:

  • Use a parser function like {{#property:p169}} in the wiki text of the article on Yahoo!. This will return “Marissa Mayer” as she is the chief executive officer of the company.
  • For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.

We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:chief executive officer}} instead of {{#property:p169}}. The complete plan for this is here.

Where can I test this? You can already test it on test2.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.

--Lydia Pintscher 16:45, 5 Ēastermōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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Request for comment on inactive administrators[adihtan]

(Please consider translating this message for the benefit of your fellow Wikimedians. Please also consider translating the proposal.)

Read this message in English / Lleer esti mensaxe n'asturianu / বাংলায় এই বার্তাটি পড়ুন / Llegiu aquest missatge en català / Læs denne besked på dansk / Lies diese Nachricht auf Deutsch / Leś cal mesag' chè in Emiliàn / Leer este mensaje en español / Lue tämä viesti suomeksi / Lire ce message en français / Ler esta mensaxe en galego / हिन्दी / Pročitajte ovu poruku na hrvatskom / Baca pesan ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia / Leggi questo messaggio in italiano / ಈ ಸಂದೇಶವನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿ / Aqra dan il-messaġġ bil-Malti / norsk (bokmål) / Lees dit bericht in het Nederlands / Przeczytaj tę wiadomość po polsku / Citiți acest mesaj în română / Прочитать это сообщение на русском / Farriintaan ku aqri Af-Soomaali / Pročitaj ovu poruku na srpskom (Прочитај ову поруку на српском) / อ่านข้อความนี้ในภาษาไทย / Прочитати це повідомлення українською мовою / Đọc thông báo bằng tiếng Việt / 使用中文阅读本信息。

Hello!

There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 04:16, 24 Ēastermōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) is here[adihtan]

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Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. We have now enabled the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) a month ago and two days ago on the English Wikipedia. Today all the remaining Wikipedias followed.

What does having phase 2 enabled here mean? You are now able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!) The current state is just the beginning though. It will be extended based on feedback we get from you now.

How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:

  • Use a parser function like {{#property:p159}} in the wiki text of the article on Wikimedia Foundation. This will return “San Francisco” as that is the headquarter location of the non-profit.
  • For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.

We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:headquarter location}} instead of {{#property:p159}}. The complete plan for this is here.

Where can I test this? You can test it on test2 if you don't want to do it in an article here.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.


We are excited about taking yet another step towards allowing all Wikipedias share structured data and collect and curate it together. --Lydia Pintscher 19:00, 24 Ēastermōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming[adihtan]

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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[en] Change to section edit links[adihtan]

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.

Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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Spelling uniformisation[adihtan]

Considering we have this nice tool which lets us switch between g/w and ȝ/ƿ, and that in many articles the spelling's a mess worse than the recent musical achievements of Britney Spears, I'd recommand not to use ȝ/ƿ when editing articles and switching them to g/w if spotted. One interested in giving yet more archaic feel to what he's reading may change them easily using the tool I mentioned, and by using modern letters we'd follow common practice of the most popular Old English manuals, like the one from Blackwell whose authors I happened to forgot. Bli med (talk) 12:59, 13 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

I have included such instructions on the help page, also. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 20:09, 13 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
And yet, the whole namespace uses wynn in its name, but I suppose changing this should be requested at meta:, shouldn't it? Bli med (talk) 02:45, 14 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I don't see any namespace with wynn. This page is in fact in the mainspace (article namespace). The project namespace is "Wikipedia:" here. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:05, 14 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Go to bugzilla: and Enter a new bug under "Wikimedia" (not "MediaWiki"), set the "Component" to "Site requests" (I think), and enter a description and summary (headline). It's a shell request. For namespaces not specific to Wikimedia (e.g., Wikipedia and Wikipedia talk), use this. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:04, 14 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Mabe If I just move the page.... Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 03:38, 14 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that is necessary? Can't such pages as need it just be moved? Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 06:16, 15 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

It's not strictly necessary, but currently this page shows up as an article. On other projects, they use a separate namespace for that. PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:58, 15 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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Updating the logo for this wiki[adihtan]

New logo
Proposal by Gottistugt

Hello! As part of the update of Wikipedias logos to the new (2010) 3D puzzle globe version, we have noticed that your wiki's current logo is missing, outdated or with wrong translation. We are trying to help Wikipedias get a locally-adapted correct logo, by taking the technical difficulties on us, and in about a week from now we'll be replacing the current logo with the new one shown in this gallery, with explanation. If the translation is wrong, or there's another error in the new logo, or the community disagrees with the update, please update the list of logos or tell us on its talk page. Feel free to translate this message and to move/copy/forward it where appropriate. Thanks, Nemo 13:00, 27 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC) (Distributed via Global message delivery: wrong page? correct the list of targets.)

That should be fine unless we want to replace the wynns with 'w's. PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:45, 27 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
I would rather go "thoroughly authentic" and do a logo with the Beowulf font, which would be very easy to implement since it is only an image. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 11:23, 28 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Uploaded a demo for demonstration. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 23:08, 29 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
The macrons / acutes are not authentic though. Hogweard (talk) 08:29, 30 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Macron-like marks were consistently, fairly often used in OE to mark above a vowel that was followed by a nasal consonant.
In the first 6 pages of the Lindisfarne gospells (excellent facsimile viewable here, though sadly apparently not available for download), I was able to find 9 examples of an acute-like mark being used above vowels. Of those 9 times, it was above a long vowel 8 times (the one time it did not, was above the word "áldum" - dative of "ald/eald"). For all the times where an acute was used, there were multiple times when it was not used above clearly long vowels. Words/stems marked with acutes were: líc (as in "gelíc") 3 times, "án" twice, "éc" twice, and "hád" once. In the same manuscript, there was also a plethora of not always obviously meaningful superscript marks, including superscript letters, tilde-like marks, a subscript acute-like mark, dots, and umlaut-like marks. Take what you want from all that. My minimum conclusion: acute-like marks were used by at least one OE scribe (I believe I've seen them elsewhere, too), rarely and inconsistently, and not absolutely necessarily to represent long vowels. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 23:30, 30 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Other interested traits of the OE writing in that ms are: occasional non-ligaturizing of æ, distinction of oe vowel, use of macron/tilde above g as abbreviation for common syllable "ge-", use of macron/tilde above "f" as abbreviation for common syllable "for", use of a caracter that looks like l with a cross through it (as an abbreviation for some conjunction, I think), use of t with a macron/tilde above it to represent common syllabe "-ter" as in "æfter", use of io diphthong, and obvious non-West Saxon dialectual traits. Also, on page 20r second column I found the word "scylda" with a superscript "h" above the "sc" cluster - recognition of palatalization, perhaps? But I digress. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 23:50, 30 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Eh, I see the typeface as being stylistic, and not technically needed for conveying the lettering (think manuscript vs cursive). Flag of Virginia.svg Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec) Confederate Rebel Flag.svg 03:12, 31 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, that is the issue at hand. All writing is stylistic. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 23:52, 31 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
The "New Logo" up on top there (I'll assume it's meant to make use of an official Wikipedia typeface; dunno, havent really kept up with that) is fine by me. It gets the point across and stays consistent with the rest of the Roman-lettered Wikipedia logos. (it's a shame we cant use Runic, as it wasnt majority represented in the old corpus, but, oh well) Flag of Virginia.svg Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec) Confederate Rebel Flag.svg 03:41, 1 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
I wouldn't object to the top logo being used atm. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 10:10, 1 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
The issue I have with the bottom one is that the typeface used, its letter spacing is horrible and inconsistent, and looks really choppy. Plus the letters themselves don't have enough size in the vital areas. The creator of it should have taken their time and tidied it up :\ Flag of Virginia.svg Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec) Confederate Rebel Flag.svg 23:01, 2 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
That is not the default spacing for the font (or at least, the "Ƿikipǽdia" bit is not - the "séo fréo ƿísdómbóc" is original spacing for the font; believe it or not, most OE script was written fairly crowded). You should know that that script was pretty much lifted from Beowulf, so one could say that the script itself is from the scribe of Beowulf. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 09:48, 3 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Trademark discussion[adihtan]

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Cochrane Library Sign-up (correct link)[adihtan]

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X!'s Edit Counter[adihtan]

No! The opt-in requirement was introduced years ago for truly stupid reasons, namely one bloody little whiner bitching and complaining.
Varlaam (talk) 16:04, 27 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Cyrillic login?[adihtan]

I have tried this a couple of times to confirm.
When I log directly into angwiki, the login screen comes up half in Anglo-Saxon and half in Cyrillic. (It won't let me copy the strings so I will not be providing the text.)
The Cyrillic text is clearly not Russian or another Slavic tongue.
When I look up the weird letter Ҥ (en-ghe), it reads:
"En-ghe is used in the alphabets of the Aleut, Altai, Meadow Mari, and Yakut languages."

Does this imply a practical joker had admin authority? Varlaam (talk) 16:13, 27 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

I also see the same thing. I should go inquire about it. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 20:26, 27 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
I think either something is wrong with the translation service at translatewiki.net, or someone has vandalized the englisc translation a little. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 20:29, 27 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Well, see this. The user Altai uul, who speaks Southern Altai, is responsible. I'm not sure whether we should make any serious complaint about it - none of the messages he translated were in Anglo-Saxon beforehand, anyway (according to page history). But he does seem to have targeted the login page... Anyway, I'll change it. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 20:37, 27 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
I've translated the messages to OE, so it should be fixed in a while. I'm not sure how to make the process go faster. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 22:31, 27 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09[adihtan]

Pywikipedia is migrating to git[adihtan]

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 12:51, 23 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor and your Wikipedia[adihtan]

(Please translate this message)

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HTTPS for users with an account[adihtan]

Greetings. Starting on August 21 (tomorrow), all users with an account will be using HTTPS to access Wikimedia sites. HTTPS brings better security and improves your privacy. More information is available at m:HTTPS.

If HTTPS causes problems for you, tell us on bugzilla, on IRC (in the #wikimedia-operations channel) or on meta. If you can't use the other methods, you can also send an e-mail to https@wikimedia.org.

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Wikipedia:Stylistic and font options[adihtan]

Junicode is now available. Review this page. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:05, 1 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

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Adjectives in article names: form[adihtan]

I am not convinced by the principle on Help:Innoþ that where an article name has an adjective it should be in the strong for unless there is a se, seo or þæt. I know that the German Wikipedia does it that way ("Vereingt Staaten", suggesting "some united states or other") but Germans have an obsessively mechanical way with their language's grammar.

An adjective has the weak form when it has a demonstrative pronoun (se, þes etc) or a possessive (min, ðin, his etc).

An article by the University of Texas adds also when it is used in the vocative case (used for direct address); or it is a comparative or superlative form or it is used in poetry. I am not sure about the latter.

The question is whether the adjective in a title like "Pacific Ocean" should be strong or weak, but there are no original texts with headings like that. We could have headings with the demonstrative pronoun, which would reflect the language better. Without it, I believe the pronoun is implied and so it should be a weak (definite) form of the adjective: it is the Pacific Ocean, not a pacific ocean (or to use the term of the time, The Chinese Ocean, not a Chinese ocean).

An example of a weak form with no pronoun is the word syllan in Deor, where "the" is implied:

swoncre seonobende
on syllan monn

("supple sinew-bonds / on better man")

Hogweard (talk) 15:34, 1 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Actually, third person possessive pronouns do not/do not usually cause the weak declension. In the example you gave, the adjective was comparative (albiet irregular comparative), and so was declined weak. Adjectives were also weak when appended to a personal name (as a nickname...).
But we already understand that it is not just any old Chinese ocean. That is further made clear within the article itself. The weak form by itself does not actually necessarily carry the meaning of "the" with it, I think - it is simply a nieche grammatical feature of OE and other Germanic languages. I know of no examples of the weak form being used by itself to imply "the" in OE.
Furthermore, there are examples in OE of words being used without the definitive article or a possessive pronoun, but nevertheless having a sense of definiteness. Like the example you gave. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 21:53, 2 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Notifications[adihtan]

Notifications inform you of new activity that affects you -- and let you take quick action.

(This message is in English, please translate as needed)

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We're now getting ready to bring Notifications to almost all other Wikimedia sites, and are aiming for a 22 October deployment, as outlined in this release plan. It is important that notifications is translated for all of the languages we serve.

There are three major points of translation needed to be either done or checked:

Please let us know if you have any questions, suggestions or comments about this new tool. For more information, visit this project hub and this help page. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:06, 4 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

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Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.[adihtan]

Introducting Beta Features[adihtan]

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Old English Conditional Pluperfect[adihtan]

How can be expressed sentences, like "I had not done it."? --Martinus Poeta Juvenis (talk) 15:25, 13 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

"I had not done it" is in OE "Ic næfde gedōn hit/Ic næfde hit gedōn". For more examples, see the IV. and V. senses of the entry for "habban" in the BT dictionary here: [16]

Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 06:15, 17 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

That is the pluperfect, as was the sentence suggested, not conditional. To say "Had I not done it", subjunctive, verb is hæfde, so "Næfde ic hit gedōn". Hogweard (talk) 08:52, 17 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! And in if-clauses? Eg. "If I had done that, I would have been better." --Martinus Poeta Juvenis (talk) 15:07, 17 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
"Gif" is the OE word for "if": "If I had done that, I would have done better" - "Gif ic hæfde þæt gedōn, ic wolde bet gedōn habban." With the word "gif", in OE, either indicative or subjunctive may be used, depending upon whether or not an event is actually expected to happen. For example, I could say: "Gif Ælfrēd singeþ and wīf wille hine for þǣm ofslēan, ic cume and sparie hine" - "If Alfred sings and a woman wants to kill him because of that, I will save him", with "singeþ" in indicative, but "wille" in subjunctive, indicating that I expect that Ælfrēd will indeed sing, but I am not sure that a woman will really want to kill him for that. Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 22:37, 17 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Last question: is the would-conditional (eg. "would like") expressed in OE with simple Past Subjunctive. There are in the OE two tenses, in modern language twelve. How can be expressed these tenses! Thank you for your answer.--Martinus Poeta Juvenis (talk) 07:48, 19 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Call for comments on draft trademark policy[adihtan]

wunian and 'live in'[adihtan]

Hello, everyone.

While cleaning some stuff up, I saw that the page Flocc:Wikibōceras_in_Floridan uses wunian with a noun and without a preposition to mean 'live in X' ("Wikibōceras þe wuniaþ ... Florida." I initially thought that Florida was in the dative case given that I read that mid is usually used with the dative case, thus believing it to be an instance of sense I.1.b here (making things grammatically elegant for both left and right of oþþe in the overall thing, but then I saw that the examples of that sense aren't really showing the construction being used with places that are not dwellings. Now, I.1.c does show wederburg and (more like locations) being used in a similar construction (prepositionless) and with a similar meaning but in the accusative, and it apparently is possible to use mid with a noun in the accusative, so perhaps it would be better to think of Florida in the accusative?

I ask not only because I would like to be certain but also because I copied the content from the aforementioned page to Flocc:Wikibōceras_in_þǣm_Geānlǣhtum_Rīcum and adapted it to that page thinking the construct was using the dative...

What say you?

Espreon (talk) 04:36, 27 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

You are right, as those examples attest.
  • Wunian means "dwell" and needs a preposition, which makes the place dative;
  • Oneardian means "inhabit"
This we have Ic wunie in þissum lande, though Ic oneard[i]e þis land
Florida, if a masculine noun, would be Floridan in accusative or dative, and if it is feminine as are many Latin-derived placenames, then Floride, but the only such example immediately to mind is "Affrica" and that is treated as feminine and as masculine even in the same passage of the OE Orosius. Hogweard (talk) 10:44, 27 Blōtmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for not getting back to this for some time.
You say I'm right, yet you say that wunian requires a preposition.
The examples given for sense I.1.c ('inhabit'/'live in', apparently) involve nouns in the accusative and don't have prepositions, so it appears to me that wunian doesn't require a preposition in certain constructs. And so I guess it would be fine to have the descriptive text for the category I mentioned be "Wikibōceras þe wuniaþ oþþe sind mid Floridan/Floride." rather than "Wikibōceras þe wuniaþ in oþþe sind mid Floridan/Floride."
I'm sorry, but I'm just... confused. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Espreon (talk) 01:14, 15 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

"language code"[adihtan]

Hello.

I need a word for 'language code', but I'm not quite sure what to use.

I don't want to calque German Sprachkürzel (the term they seem to use at the German Wiktionary) since that just means 'language abbreviation', and these things aren't always abbreviations.

Would sprǣctācn ('language token/symbol') or maybe sprǣcstæftācn ('language character/letter token/symbol') be any good?

Thanks,

Espreon (talk) 00:53, 15 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Or Gereordesrūn Hogweard (talk) 23:10, 1 Se Æfterra Gēola 2014 (UTC)
Sprǣcrūn too, but any of these will work. It seems like they'd all be equally understood. -W.

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?[adihtan]

I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

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We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:46, 16 Se Æfterra Gēola 2014 (UTC)

Wæstmas or Ofet?[adihtan]

Which of these categories is the one for fruit?

Cheers. Delusion23 (talk) 20:54, 1 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Also, which of these is correct for Category:Sports?

Cheers. Delusion23 (talk) 21:02, 1 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

And which is Category:Languages?

Cheers. Delusion23 (talk) 21:24, 1 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Hrm.... "ofet" is for fruit. "Wæstm" can be for "fruit", but it is broader, more like "agricultural produce". "Plega" means "sport", whereas "plegan" means "sports", so I would go for the latter, since we use plural in category names, consistent with, for example, MnE Wikipedia practice. Same goes for "sprǣc" (language, speech) vs "sprǣca" (languages). Benmoreandflower.JPG  Ƿes hāl!   Fiordland Lake Marian.jpg 19:57, 6 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)
Or gamen for sport or gereord for language.
For category names, it is not always the plural which is appropriate but a category word, so for animals I would say Deorcynn as that means "animals as a category", and Treowcynn means "trees as a category", just as today we would say "poultry" to mean "chickens as a category". (I've not seen any oftecynn or wæstmcynn in books.)
For language we can have Flocc:Sprǣc if that best means "The concept of language". It does not work in the plural.
In Modern English we say "Sport" to mean the concept of playing and disporting but "a sport" is a different sense, so in Englisc we might have "Gamen" for a particular game but "Plega" to mean sport as a concept.
Hogweard (talk) 12:02, 7 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Unconnected articles[adihtan]

Thanks for helping out with those categories. I'm trying to get all ang.wikipedia pages integrated with Wikidata. There's a list of ones that need work at Special:UnconnectedPages. Here are a few I'm having trouble with:

Any help with these would be much appreciated. Cheers. Delusion23 (talk) 22:56, 18 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Hey, is anyone able to work out what these refer to, or should they be nominated for deletion? Cheers. Delusion23 (talk) 15:24, 8 Sēremōnaþ 2014 (UTC)
I have added some translations / explanations beneath. Hogweard (talk) 18:55, 8 Sēremōnaþ 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I have nominated some for deletion and linked some to their correct articles. I have redirected one too. Delusion23 (talk) 22:41, 20 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014[adihtan]

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Amendment to the Terms of Use[adihtan]

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments[adihtan]

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I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Wikipǣdia better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 19:44, 28 Solmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment[adihtan]

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 21:55, 13 Hrēþmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Catalan Culture Challenge[adihtan]

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

The Catalan-speaking world... Want to find out more? From March 16 to April 15 we will organise the Catalan Culture Challenge, a Wikipedia editing contest in which victory will go to those who start and improve the greatest number of articles about 50 key figures of Catalan culture. You can take part by creating or expanding articles on these people in your native language (or any other one you speak). It would be lovely to have you on board. :-)

We look forward to seeing you!

Amical Wikimedia--Kippelboy (talk) 07:59, 15 Hrēþmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soon[adihtan]

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

Media Viewer[adihtan]


Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 21:29, 23 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

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Using only UploadWizard for uploads[adihtan]

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Hello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 13:09, 19 Sēremōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[adihtan]


Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 19 Sēremōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

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Help for translate[adihtan]

Hello and sorry for writing in English. Can anyone help me translate a small article (2 paragraphs) from English to your language? Please, fell free to answer in my talk page in your wiki anytime. Thanks! Xaris333 (talk) 18:52, 12 Wēodmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[adihtan]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 17:35, 21 Wēodmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Process ideas for software development[adihtan]

’’My apologies for writing in English.’’

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22:15, 21 Wēodmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

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